Sunday, June 25, 2023

Sunday Snoozles™

Well well well. What's all this then? A pair of Snoozles? Very irregular, very irregular indeed. 

Say, who put that mill on Tom Sawyer Island? Was it Tom and his friends? Did they have a side-hustle selling flour? "Ain't nothin' as fun as milling wheat into flour!". Of course they dressed as river pirates while raking in the money. This photo isn't that bad, just a bit soft I guess. I originally thought it might be from the 1950s, but just look at how overgrown the plants are. I'll bet this is from the 1970s.


Speaking of the 1970s, here's a boring photo of a Submarine (BUT WHICH ONE?) and it made its way through the tropical lagoon on the way to the deepest depths of the ocean. They even go beneath the polar ice caps! I didn't even know that the polar ice wore multiple hats, but nature is wondrous. 


Here's a Disneyland postcard showing the Canoe guides dressed as Indians (with red shirts):


17 comments:

JB said...

Yeah, definitely not the fifties. Besides the uber growth of the vegetation, the clothing styles of the guests seem to be from the sixties or, like you said, the seventies. We can hardly see the antlers on the roof! Those two canoes on the right are filled to the brim.

Major, I think the Sub is the Patrick Henry. I can just make out the "Patri". I guess all those bubbles in the foreground are where the Subs 'dive' underwater. Either that, or the mermaids had burritos for lunch.

I guess these do qualify as Snoozles, but it coulda been worse. You've shown us some real doozies over the years; but those are the funnest! Hey, maybe the 'really bad' ones could be "Doozles"! ;-p Thanks, Major.

TokyoMagic! said...

I'm trying to figure out if the cast member in the back of the canoe on the right, is wearing the "Indian War Canoe" costume, or the one for the "Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes." I bet Mike C. or Ken S. can tell us.

A Submarine ride, and all it cost was the price of an "E" Coupon....not $250,000. And I'm assuming the Subs weren't controlled with a Pong™ joystick? Too soon?

Thank you for the Sunday Snoozles™, Major!

MIKE COZART said...

The mill at Disneyland’s Tom Sawyer Island is referred to only at the park as “the old mill” but it’s probably the grist mill run by the father of Tom’s best friend from school : Joe Harper …. In Tom Sawyer , Joe Harper is the behaved friend of Tom Sawyer while Huck Finn is the rebellious friend . Huck and Joe are the antithesis of each other. Tom actually runs away to a river island with Joe Harper after Joe’s mother accuses him of stealing a pint of cream. This is a part of the book that is always left out of Tom Sawyer movies.

At Walt Disney World , the old mill was labeled Harpers Mill - and the name was emblazoned on the board & batten mill siding. ….(from 1973 until this year…..) but to my understanding is was a reference to Harpers Ferry … a mill town that was famous for being a early industrialized town on the edge of civilization and the Frontier… but really famous because of its involvement during the civil war.

MIKE COZART said...

Sorry Tokyo; my eyesight is too poor to identify the costumes in the canoe rear paddle guides ….

Bu said...

Snoozles, Doozles, Troozles, and Quadroodles...I'm not sure we've seen them all yet. The Mill is quite overgrown...I am all for a "naturalistic" look, but this looks like when my horticulture-type neighbor comes into my yard and says "I got one word for you: ..."pruner". I will certainly take this particular look 1 million more times than barbecued dragon, but I think that's for another blog. Tom Sawyer Island looks like valuable real estate these days, but please do not do any more TRE to this sacred ground. Looks like a busy day with full canoes and loads of peoples at the Mine Train. Yellow skirt looks a wee miffed, and red dress/white yoke looks confused. My general observation for people getting off the raft at Tom Sawyer Island is that they always look confused, and generally stop...look right...look left...then contemplate their destination (slowly)...guess they should have read their little map...the bottle neck is not "out", the bottleneck is "in". "Please get out of the way, I have caves to go scream in at the top of my lungs..." I can't see the Canoe costume that well, but it reads "red"...however, I don't think that was ever a Canoe costume color...I could be wrong...I don't have much to say about the subs, other than it reminds me of a tour I had when I had referred to them- the submarine (ficticiously of course) as "nuclear" subs, and one of my guests (who had been a bit of a pest) proceeded to dramatically melt down...I quickly had to remind them that they were powered by diesel to avoid a "full melt". Now looking back, that particular guest had something to say about everything...but for another time. It's amazing that the subs and lagoon: even though not as originally intended...are still around 64 years later. Thank for the snoozliey doozleree photos Major!

Stu29573 said...

The sub is the USS Sneaky. This picture captures her as she dove to resurface in the Rivers of America. After an unsuccessful torpedo run on the Mark Twain (that boat can swerve quick when needed!) she was refitted and sent to WDW where she met the same fate as all the rest of the (mostly outlaw) subs...being converted into Chick-Fil-A chicken friers.
Facts like these are hard to come by!

JG said...

I like the overgrown mill, feels right to me. I wonder where the grain is farmed though.

I’d say the canoe CMs are wearing the pink shirts that I suppose are mimicking faded red Union suits, but I’m no expert.

Major, Pierre Cardin has dictated that stylish ice wears a watch cap in the winter, or one of those jaunty alpine felt hats with a feather brush, but a broad-brimmed planter’s straw hat with a black grosgrain ribbon band in summer. And white shoes & belt only after Memorial Day.

The original gray subs were steered with pinball flippers. Maybe the next addition to the subs will be a model Titanic?

JG

Major Pepperidge said...

JB, maybe this IS the fifties, but the people are wearing 1970s clothing because they are from Tomorrowland, and the vegetation is growing crazy because of nuclear fallout. And that’s not the “Patrick Henry”, it’s the “Patricia Nixon”. Walt was friends with the Nixons, remember. I’m glad you liked these Snoozles!

TokyoMagic!, these aren’t sharp enough to really say for sure, but my guess is that the Canoe CM is dressed as an Indian. Looking online, I see that they changed to “Davy Crockett’s Explorer Canoes” in on May 19, 1971 - so now I’m not so sure. Now I want to take a Disneyland sub down to the Titanic, what’s the worst that could happen?

Mike Cozart, I was making a lame joke about the mill belonging to Tom and Huck, but it did make me wonder who else was on their island. There’s a whole fort there of course, and they need flour, or better yet, cornmeal for hush puppies. It seems to make sense that Harper’s Mill in WDW would still be a reference to Joe Harper, but you would certainly know better than I.

Mike Cozart, maybe this is from that brief period when the Canoe guides dressed as Paul Lynde?

Bu, your neighbor sounds annoying. “Prune THIS!” I would say to him (hoping that he could take a joke). I agree, a manicured garden is nice, but I like them to look a bit more “wooly”. My best friend’s yard is a riot of trees and plants, and I know that some of his neighbors don’t like it, but I think it looks cool. Plus, he has lots of rare fruiting plants. Go out back and pick a goji berry! Or one of 20 different figs. Or maybe a nice kei apple. I think it’s OK for people being a bit confused when they de-raft - it encourages exploration, hopefully not everyone marches together in the same direction. If I saw everyone heading in one direction, I’d go the OTHER direction. Because I’m a rebel. A loner. Yes, I’ve seen the Indian guides wear red shirts, I’ll look for an old postcard (or something) to add as a visual aid. The guest who pretended to melt down? Eject him through the torpedo tube. He probably made loud annoying comments in the Haunted Mansion too.

Stu29573, I like the name USS Sneaky, and wish that the Navy had real vessels with names like that. And yes, the Mark Twain is surprisingly agile, plus it has a full anti-torpedo defense system (such as releasing hundreds of churros into the water). Chick-Fil-A uses decommissioned subs as friers?? I had no idea!

JG, presumably the grain for the mill is delivered via steamboat, so it could come from anywhere near the river. Now I’m hungry for a sackful of flour. Pink shirts - faded longjohns? Pierre Cardin must know a thing about ice looking stylish. You know how those French know fashion. I hope someday to see the Antarctic, with so many charming and stylish hats. “Grosgrain”, that must be the first time that word has appeared on GDB. Now I’m wondering, do the subs need to be steered at all? Or does the pilot just go forward and backward?

Nanook said...

Major-
Definitely kudos to JG for working "grosgrain" into the comments. He deserves the rarely-given 'Pepper Award'® (I've been wanting to sneak-in 'ramie' and/or 'hemp' onto these pages - but so far, no).

MIKE COZART said...

I forgot!! : I have some prop flour burlap like sacks …. In two sizes that came from Disneyland ( empty ) screen printed in blue : these read “Harpers Grist Mill -FLOUR” and the smaller one “Harpers Grist Mill - Cornmeal” ….. these date from the 1970’s or 1980’s … so at one point it was being implied that it was Harpers Mill - a friend of mine has told me these were in use inside and filled with sand and sewing batting and used as interior props up until it became Will Turners Blacksmith Shop.

Major : don’t go makin’ much fun of Tom and Huck ….. as they don’t take kindly to that , and I’d suppose you might get a dead cat left on yer outhouse door for accountability of such! I know it happened to the Widow Douglas a summer ago … so be warned.

JB said...

Tokyo!, I suppose it is too soon. But, like you, I was kinda scratching my head; who would pay $250,000 for a ride in a relatively untested sub?... Who would charge $250,000 for a ride in a relatively untested sub? I guess some people have more money than they know what to do with. Or more money than brains.

Bu, thanks for reminding me about the recently barbequed dragon; so festive!

Major, "the people are wearing 1970s clothing because they are from Tomorrowland, and the vegetation is growing crazy because of nuclear fallout." Wow, I know that i get kinda crazy and absurd with my comments, but YOU are the King! Or at least, the Major!

Major Pepperidge said...

Nanook, no hemp on GDB, this is a family blog! Just reading the word “hemp” will make some people act crazy.

Mike Cozart, interesting that they made custom flour sacks - long ago I looked around the mill, and I am pretty sure there were sacks full of flour, but I didn’t notice that they had any printing on them. What a cool thing to have! I know I shouldn’t make fun of Tom and Huck, but they know I’m just being silly.

JB, it is pretty incredible that anyone who can spend $250,000 on a submarine ride would be so easily sold on such an “iffy” vessel, but I guess the fact that it had successfully made the trip numerous times must have soothed any fears. What’s so absurd about my comment about the second photo? It’s all fact!

MIKE COZART said...

I know I have photos taken of the mill interior showing the prop flour sacks …. The Hungry Bear Restaurant in the center display with the fake pies also had a prop bag each of Harpers Mill flour and cornmeal ….the material is more like a canvas as opposed to burlap I described earlier.

And I guess Florida’s mill had a sign that specifically said the mill was named after their pal Joe Harper’s dad …. So much for the Harper’s Ferry tie in …

Bu said...

I thought it was Valerie Harpers Mill...?

MIKE COZART said...

BU : too soon.

JG said...

Major, thank you for the postcard showing the canoe CMs in red shirts. I had forgotten that detail.

I think they changed the costume since so many were being lost to Klingons, phaser fire, lightning bolts, warp core breaches and similar incidents.

JG

JB said...

^ hahahaha!