Saturday, July 22, 2023

Florida

Florida! Some crazy stuff goes on there. It must be the humidity. I have two fun photos for you today, both from the Sunshine State. 

First up is this April 1964 photo of a mother and son next to the world's largest Hercules beetle, who was fed a steady diet of Wheaties cereal. But where are they? The suspense is killing me.


Thanks, vintage postcard! They were at the May Museum of the Tropics in Weeki Wachee Springs, Florida, Strangely, Wikipedia makes no mention of this museum when it was in Florida - according to another site, it eventually moved to Colorado Springs (John May loved those springs!) because the Florida humidity was ruining the family collection of thousands of insects from around the world. The name was changed to the May Museum of Natural History, and they brought the giant beetle (named "Herkimer") with them; he can still be seen today along Colorado State Highway 115. 

One story claims that Walt Disney visited the museum in 1956 and offered to buy the whole collection, but John May refused when he found out that the family would get no credit. 


Next, it's the OLD JAIL, In St. Augustine (from July, 1970). The building was designed and constructed by the P.J. Pauley Jail Building and Manufacturing Company of St. Louis, Missouri in 1891. The Old Jail served as the St Johns County Jail until 1953. After the jail facilities were moved to a new, more modern building, the vacant Old Jail building was sold to entrepreneur Henry "Slim" McDaniel who began operating the remarkably well preserved building as a roadside tourist attraction.


Vintage postcards give us a better look at some of the humorous tableaus on display. The Sweat Box was a sort of sauna for the prisoners. The pounds just melted away!


All of the prisoners drank the water, which was high in minerals, and that made their limbs rigid so that they stood like Frankenstein's Monster. Have you ever seen a genuine moonshine still? I haven't, and yet the example on display here looks pretty crude. My grandpappy would be ashamed. Say, that rock pile is pretty big, I'd like to see those big rocks turned into little ones.


Originally built to house up to 72 prisoners, the two-story northern wing of the Jail consists of a general population and maximum security area, a women's section and a lower level kitchen. Maximum Security housed the most dangerous prisoners held at the Jail and includes a Death Row cell, for those condemned to die. A total of eight men were hung from the Gallows on the Jail compound during its history. Overall conditions at the Jail for those serving varying sentences were quite poor by modern standards and prisoners were typically used as free farm laborers during the day. Baths were infrequent, toilet facilities consisted of one bucket per cell and diet was poor and was typically supplemented by any animals that the prisoners might catch while working on the fields. Segregation by race was steadfastly adhered to at the Jail and disease, violence and death were commonplace. The two-story southern wing of the Jail consists of an Office for the Sheriff and living quarters for his family.


13 comments:

Nanook said...

Major-
A giant Hercules beetle and "babes" in [one-piece] bathing suits. It's just like 'bacon and eggs'.

Thanks, Major.

JB said...

Creepy! The mandibles of the beetle, or whatever they are, look like the mysterious spacecraft in the movie "Alien". I wonder if this beetle was the inspiration for the moviemakers' concept artists? It looks very well-made.

I'm sorry, did you say there was a beetle in that postcard picture? ;-) I think I like the darker/blacker version of the beetle better than the postcard; it seems more real. Maybe it's exactly the same in both images, but for the lighting and camera settings make it look different.

"Habitual Drunkard Dunker". I think that's what the sign says in front of the trough. These various scenes inside the prison yard actually look like they would be fun and interesting to see and read about. That building must be well-built indeed, to withstand so many years of Florida heat, humidity, rain, and wind.

Hey, "Sweat Box" guy is a real guy! (Isn't he? Sure looks like it!) So they had a few 'cast members' mixed in with the mannequins... interesting.

Major, thanks for the explanation of the mineral water and rigid limbs; I never would have figured it out, otherwise. Man, you'd think they would've posed them a little better for the paying customers. But I guess their unnaturalness makes them more (intentionally?) humorous.
Those conditions sound horrendous; for both, the prisoners and the staff.

Sort of an unusual travelogue today, Major. Thanks.

TokyoMagic! said...

In the first "Old Jail" pic, there appears to be a man (partially blocked) laying on the ground with his camera. I guess he wanted a dramatic camera angle? Is the convict on the roof supposed to be escaping, or is he just washing windows? The place looks like a real riot.

The giant beetle reminds me of four "giant creature" models from the 1970s. My brother had the model of the giant wasp:

https://www.mymoviemonsters.com/store.php/mymoviemonsters/pd2246061/fundimensions_1975_vintage_giant_insect_model_kits_all_4_still_sealed

TokyoMagic! said...

I was curious to see what the Old Jail looked like today. It looks like Gator Bob's Trading Post, Denny's Juke Joint, and a couple other buildings have been built in that courtyard area with the humorous tableaus. Here's a view of the side of the Old Jail:

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.9080917,-81.3189125,3a,75y,107.81h,96.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svBDPAGHyrjfBjeny9m8-mw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

If you move around within "street view" you can see an extension of the building, not visible in the vintage images. That's probably the wing that housed the "office for the sheriff and living quarters for his family."

Stu29573 said...

I'm pretty sure that beetle is real. The Florida tropics can grow some pretty big critters! (You should see the mice!)
When I was a kid in Denison, Tx, I found a huge (dead) Rhinoceros Beetle in the yard. Since it was very unusual to find a tropical island dwelling beetle in a Texas town, and since our local paper was pretty news-starved, I made the news! Yay me! I kept it in a box but have no idea what ever happened to it.
The Old Jail looks like the kind of place that existed just to get tourists to part with their hard earned quarters. Considering that St. Augustine is the oldest city in America, the jail isn't even particularly old. It does look much better now. And yeah, that still is a wreck. Oh well, some folks probably have good memories of it. Probably not the inmates, though...

JG said...

I studied that second photo for five minutes and never did see a beetle. Oh well.

Segregation, disease, violence, death, hard labor on a farm, and primitive sanitation. Sounds like life in jail was much like life outside jail except for the guards and bars. I know of places that were like that right up into the 1960’s for prisoners and regular folks too.

What a strange pair of attractions. Thanks Major!

JG

Dean Finder said...

Is it possible that the May Museum operated in both locations simultaneously? From the Wikipedia entry, the giant beetle was constructed in 1958, but the Colorado Springs location was up and running in 1956 when Walt visited.
I went to Weeki Wachee Springs in 1984 and don't remember any giant beetles, just mermaids. Also went to St. Augustine and saw that Old Jail museum and the Ripley's museum.

MIKE COZART said...

I was well familiar with the OLD JAIL from its advertisements in Walt Disney World VACATIONLAND magazine. Today and as a kid I loved things like that … historical districts or individual structures … but I would have been anxious being so close to THE VACATION KINGDOM and being at the Old Jail instead. Even today I don’t care to include other destinations if I’m going to WDW.

the Old Jail has recently been featured on GHOST HUNTERS.

Major Pepperidge said...

Nanook, adding babes in bathing suits to ANYTHING is just good sense!

JB, somehow I doubt that the makers of “Alien” (made in England) were aware of Herkimer, but H.R. Giger is well known for combining weird biological stuff with mechanical bits. Stuff and bits. Funny, I was thinking I liked the postcard version of Herkimer better, the “all black” seems like laziness (or cheapness, or both). If you look for current photos of him, he’s pretty worn out. I’m guessing that Sweatbox Guy is just a realistic mannequin, but hey, anything’s possible. You’re welcome re: the mineral water thing - I love science, especially astrology.

TokyoMagic!, wow, I didn’t notice the guy laying on the ground. Talk about being committed to one’s art! “The boys in the bowling league are really going to flip over this Dutch angle!”. Funny, I also didn’t notice the guy on the roof. He just loves a good view. Thank you for the Google Maps link, I was too lazy to do that myself!

Stu29573, if that is a real beetle, it’s just one more reason to not go to Florida (the other being the infamous “Florida man”). Wow, I’d love to find a rhinoceros beetle, they are pretty cool. I honestly didn’t know that they could ever be found the U.S. But as you know, I’m more about advanced astrophysics. What else is there to do in St. Augustine? As a kid I would have loved to visit that Old Jail!

JG, maybe someday, if you are pure of heart and say your prayers, you will see that beetle! That jail sounds pretty miserable, unlike other jails that are known for being fun and educational.

Dean Finder, I suppose it’s possible that both operated at the same time, in fact now (reading your comment) it seems likely! Were there TWO Herkimers in the world?

Mike Cozart, funny, I’ve seen very few WDW versions of Vacationland Magazine, but I’m sure it would be fun to see the ads for the extinct roadside attractions that were around 50 years ago! I'll bet those Ghost Hunters felt some cold air and saw some orbs.

MIKE COZART said...

Tokyo: I LOVED those GIGANTICS model kits … the collapsing buildings ..crushed automobiles … and little people running away from gigantic insects! My favorites were rampaging scorpion and the colossal mantis … it’s interesting that the box art illustrations were done by Syd Mead …. The futurist illustrator who did All the concepts for BLADE RUNNER and designed so many vehicles for Gm and United steel. Syd Mead also designed a beautiful exterior mural for the carousel of progress for a new Tomorrowland… everyone at Disneyland and WDI LOVED IT!!! …., Michael Eisner didn’t …. So the mural on Innoventions was created ..

It’s funny that Syd mead did model kit box art …. It like hiring Herbert Ryman to design your Christmas card .

Dean Finder said...

@Mike Cozart - Is ti possibly that that Syd Mead mural for the CoP exists online somewhere? It sounds exactly like the kind of thing I would make a trip to Disneyland just to see up close.

MIKE COZART said...

Unfortunately I’ve never seen the Syd Mead carousel theater mural outside of WDI. It’s never been a part of any exhibitions I’m aware of. Probably because if people saw it they’d wonder why Disneyland got the 1998 mural they did . Had there not been a TOONTOWN or Fantasmic , Disneyland would have had a very very different “new” Tomorrowland that what opened in 1998.

TokyoMagic! said...

Mike, I didn't who the artist was for those model boxes! I would also love to see Syd Mead's artwork for the Carousel Theater mural. Maybe someday!