Wednesday, January 10, 2024

More From Keith Schad

It's time for more slide scans from GDB friend Keith Schad! These are from the 1971 (or possibly early 1972) batch. And all are from Tomorrowland's Submarine Lagoon.

Speaking of submarines, here's the Skate. Named after Sir Albert... no, no, I can't do it! It's too mean! But trust me, the sheer effort involved in stopping myself has caused me to pull a groin muscle. It's always nice to see a Disneyland sub in the beautiful lagoon, but it's even nicer when you can see the Carousel of Progress building. And the Rocket Jets. 


Here's a nice shot of the Matterhorn, from those golden days when there was still a Skyway passing through. I'd hoped we might see Fudgie, but as usual he is shy. It seems like he should be there though! And hey, there's a bobsled, and you know what that means. GOOD LUCK.


And finally, a view from the Skyway looking down into the lagoon, filled with coral and mollusks, crustaceans and fishies. Notice the crabs just above Keith's name. "Patrick Henry" was not named after the  early-American patriot, but rather after Walt Disney's dentist.


 MANY thanks to Keith Schad!

16 comments:

Nanook said...

Major-
I love the "Monorail" sign obviously placed along the monorail beamway. I don't know why the powers-that-be stopped there - shouldn't there be a neon sign appended above one of the waterfalls on the Matterhorn-?

Thanks to Keith.

JB said...

Nice clear picture of the Sub (whose namesake shall not be named. Hope your groin injury gets better soon, Major). I count three (maybe four) trashcans. Or maybe they're droids; hard to tell.

Major, I think we can see one of Fudgie's tail flukes... not sure. I love the lighting in this photo, especially the upper part of the Matterhorn. It looks very cold and icy up there. The clouds might be cirrus, made up of ice crystals, which adds to the icy look. One pink mouse-ear balloon in the crowd.

Another real nice, clear photo of the Sub and Lagoon. I think we can see peoples' faces in some of the portholes. Well, we can see something in some of the portholes, anyway. I thought this 'wessel' was named after Sir Albert-Patrick-Henry-Submarine... I think I just made Major's groin injury worse... sorry.

Thank you, Keith, for the pristine-looking photos. And to Major P. for your usual witty and informative commentary.

TokyoMagic! said...

That second one is a beauty! I don't see Tinker Bell's pole or wire. I forget, did they used to make her take all of that down once summer was over?

Two of the three crabs in that last pic, are fighting each other. Or square dancing. There are also at least two large turtles visible near the top edge of the photo.

Thanks for sharing and hosting, Keith and Major!

Bu said...

How nice to see the "real" Tomorrowland this morning: Sponsored by GE and Coca Cola. Normally, I poo poo all these sponsorships and things: but possibly it is the MOST "tomorrow" thing about Tomorrowland. Two really good things about these photos: the Monorail Speedramp, and "Disneyland USA" on the stern of the sub. Bring back Disneyland USA. Is it anywhere anymore? "Disneyland USA" vs "Disneyland Resort"...uhhhh there is no comparison! You can see the PeopleMover speedramp there in the distance as well, along with some bussers at Coke Terrace. I did that job, and it's exactly what you think it would be. God bless the people who do it: guests are slobs. "TOMORROW = Palm trees, Coke and Submarines". Somehow it all makes sense. I can smell sub exhaust and burgers through the picture. Gimme a Magic Burger and a Space Mist please. I actually do not think Coke served Space Mist: only the place under the Rocket Jets who's name also escapes me. I worked in both of those locations: with no training whatsoever, just a "go for it". Talk about "eeeek" . When you worked at Coke your day seemed like about 10 minutes: it went by so incredibly fast due to the sheer volume and velocity of work. I only worked at the counter not back in the kitchen: which was it's own thing and boys only. The front lines were girls only until the early 80's: we didn't have a Coke Bottle hat: those were only for the girls. The "space suit" we wore was not flattering: I have a picture of me in it "somewhere". I suppose today it would be "cool" but probably fit me like an bright orange wetsuit. Thanks for the memories Keith and Major!

Steve DeGaetano said...

The street where I grew up was named Patrick Henry Place, in Liberty Canyon, Agoura, CA. We often recited his motto, "Give me pain-free bridgework, or give me death!"

Stu29573 said...

As much as I love the subs, the winner for today is Mat the Horn. (what a weird nickname Matt has).
Those are my favorate version of the skyway buckets, since they also had them at WDW and my local park, Six Flags Over Texas. The round ones look like trash cans (not that there's anything wrong with that).
The subs are nice, though. I'm pretty sure those crabs are just discussing stock options.
Good ones today! Thanks!

JG said...

This pic of the Horn That Matters is worth the price of Admission today! It’s got it all, bobsleds, buckets, ice, snow, iced snow, and the fence that might be made of Viewliner salvage!

The SKATE might be the only DLUSAN sub adhering to the original USN naming conventions where submarines were named after fish. Of course the other craft was named after Sir Albert Dentist. (Hoping there was just a bit more juice to be wrung from that tired joke, sorry Major).

I always was amazed how the various fish and sea creatures were arranged so guests on both side of the sub saw the same tableaux. One of Natures Wonders to be sure. If we look closely we can see more crabs on the starboard side of the sub. (A little nautical lingo there). I’m sure at least one of them is named Louis, after Sir Albert Louis.

Sorry about your injury, Major, hope we didn’t aggravate it. Thank you to you and Keith for these splendid photos.

JG

Anonymous said...

And we have said it many times before...the views from the Skyway cannot be duplicated at ground level. KS

Major Pepperidge said...

Nanook, hey, I like the neon sign idea! You’re hired!

JB, groin injuries can only heal due to plenty of rest, daytime TV, and pizza rolls. But I am determined to get better! I think I see the tail fluke you mentioned, although somebody on this blog said something that implied that changes were made to the Matterhorn that might mean that Fudgie is only visible in photos taken before a certain time. I have no idea, myself. Those clouds aren’t ice crystals, they are chemicals sprayed by the government to control us! I think you’re right about seeing a bit of some faces in the portholes, though it’s hard to see.

TokyoMagic!, I’m not sure about Tinker Bell’s wire, was there ever a time when they did not have Tink in the sky? I love being able to see some of the undersea critters from above, somehow it mentally puts me on the original ride.

Bu, I know what you mean about seeing those classic sponsors; who knows, maybe FedEx or Starbucks does the same thing for younger Disneyland fans? Hmmm, now I wonder if the subs have “Disneyland USA” on them. I’ve never really looked! Generally I stare vacantly over the water with my mouth open. Once a mourning dove built a nest in my mouth and I didn’t even realize it! Wow, i’m astonished that you were thrown into the Coke Terrace without any training! That just seems weird. Sink or swim, I guess. I’d imagine that you’d get up to speed pretty quickly though. It sounds exhausting. A “Magic Burger” was that really one of the names? I can’t remember if I’ve seen photos of CMs with Coke Bottle Cap hats at the park.

Steve DeGaetano, I’ve been to Liberty Canyon (and pass the offramp all the time), but did not know that they had streets named after dentists. Near my mom, they have streets named after astronauts (Carpenter, Grissom), which is kind of cool.

Stu29573, in Switzerland, they call the Matterhorn “Groovy Mountain”. It’s true, I’ve been there! The best thing about the rectangular Skyway gondolas is that you could fit three or four people in one, as opposed to the round gondolas that had two little seats.

JG, it’s funny how (for me), the sight of one of the bobsleds on the Matterhorn makes all the difference. It makes me happy! I wish there had been a Sub called the “BLOBFISH”, that would have been cool. And it would have frightened the Russkies! I forgive you for making THE joke, it is hard to resist. Don’t worry about the injury, I have plenty of pizza rolls. It really is pretty amazing that the Subs had to have complete scenes that would be visible from both sides, I remember being able to see a sheepshead (orange and black, so easy to spot) from the air, and another on the other side of the vehicle.

KS, yep, I miss the Skyway alright.

LTL said...

@TokyoMagic! ... I found an old floor plan for the Pacific Electric Building, with details of upper floors:

https://npgallery.nps.gov/AssetDetail/NRIS/09000180

... click on the *first* link that says "download this PDF".

Major and Kieth, thanks for these sublime photos today.

Chuck said...

I simply love that picture of the Patrick Henry! It's rare to find such a clear shot that also clearly shows the portholes. That one photo is worth my price of admission today.

JG, there was another DLUSAN sub named after a fish - the Skipjack. And I guess Triton had a fishy tail, so there's another one that's sorta named after a sorta fish dude.

Thanks, Keith!

JG said...

Chuck, thank you for the fish nomenclature info.

Re yesterdays discussion about the Viewliner and DLRR Tomorrowland station, some time back GDB had a pic showing both stations in the same picture, proving the DLRR separate existence. I’m too lazy to hunt it up,

JG

"Lou and Sue" said...

These are terrific shots of sights you'll only see at Disneyland, and they're from the best era. That Matterhorn image is my favorite, though I also love the 3rd one, as you can clearly observe the King Crabs and turtles around Patrick. Speaking of King crabs, has anyone else priced King crab legs lately? Talk about sticker shock.

Thank you, Keith and Major!

TokyoMagic! said...

LTL, WOW! I can't believe that I wasn't able to find that in my past searches. I guess I just didn't try hard enough. I can't thank you enough for that link! I went right to the floor he was on and zoomed in to see the office/unit numbers. Then from Google "street view", I was able to count up to his floor and find his "window." It was extra easy, because one section of the building facing 6th street protrudes outward from the rest of the building, and his office was in the part that protrudes, giving him a small "side" window, in addition to the main window. Again, it was really easy to locate it. And that makes me extra happy for some reason.....maybe because I was very close to my grandparents. They had driven me by the building, but I had never gone up to his office. Oh, and I have one photo of him in his office and even a few items from it, including his nameplate. Thank you again, LTL!!!! :-)

LTL said...

TokyoMagic!, this is so fun and awesome. That building has an interesting history, and I hadn't heard of it before. The hook for me was your mention of the French Dip, and of course your quest to find the exact window and be able to say "there it is!".

... and you found it. cool.

I found that link on the Wikipedia page for the building.

As you can guess, hunting down stuff like this is my idea of a fun quest.

It's such a kick to know you were able to find the window. Hooraaaaay!

TokyoMagic! said...

As you can guess, hunting down stuff like this is my idea of a fun quest.

LTL, I love that kind of thing, too! I guess I just didn't search hard enough for that info. I thought I had looked at the building's Wikipedia page, but I guess I must have missed that link. I am currently doing that same kind of research (just for myself) on a decommissioned Army base in Berlin, where my dad was stationed, and my mom worked as a civilian. That is how they met. So now I am studying all of the photos they took on the base, and comparing them to current Google "aerial" and "street" views. It has been fun, but also educational.

You are right, the Pacific Electric building does have a very interesting history, over it's 116 years of existence. I did see your additional comment on this post from the other day, but it appears to missing now. As for your mention of "Cole's" vs. "Phillipe's", yes, they both claim to be the creator's of the very first "French dip" sandwich. They both have "backstories" about it, and in some cases, more than one. The truth is probably lost to time, but it's amazing that both are still thriving businesses, over 100 year later. You said that you ate at the one that was pretty casual. They are both pretty casual restaurants, but Phillipe's is super casual, with mostly stools for seating (and a few hard wooden "booth" setups). They also have sawdust sprinkled all over the floor, if that strikes a memory. If not, then you might have been in Cole's, which is in the basement of the P.E. Building. Phillipe's is also across the street from L.A.'s Union Station (train station) and a block away from the historic Olvera Street.

Thanks again, for your help!