River Belle Terrace Signs, September 1979
One of the joys of the photos that were provided by the Mysterious Benefactor is that they often feature various signs from around Frontierland. Like the River Belle Terrace (sponsored by Oscar Mayer)! I wonder if this beauty was hand-painted? I suppose it could have been silkscreened. Mike Cozart might know!
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Breakfast, lunch, dinner. What about second breakfasts? What about brunch? What about pre-lunch? I realize that those all sound like the same thing, but trust me, they are very very different. Nice shorts, sir.
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I kind of wish we had a photo of the menu rather than another photo of this sign, but it's hard to complain too much, even though I am very good at complaining. Just ask anyone who has met me!
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Thanks as always to the Mysterious Benefactor!
19 comments:
Major-
♫Oh I'd love to be an Oscar Mayer wiener sign♩ You probably haven't heard that one before.
Thanks to the Mysterious Benefactor.
I'd guess that the round River Belle sign is at least partly hand painted. The reflected light in the word "The" looks like there are brush strokes present.
"Breakfast- Lunch- Dinner" There is some controversy around the word "dinner". Most people refer to the evening meal as dinner. But some people call the noontime meal dinner and the evening meal supper. In our house we call lunch, lunch and the evening meal is supper. We're a simple folk with no pretensions. 'Luncheon' is right out. Only royalty partake in luncheon.
Wow, those shorts look like swim trunks to me. If they aren't, they oughta be. Now we know what Tiny Tim looks like when he isn't wearing a tuxedo and tip-toeing through the tulips.
Thanks, Major and M.B.
The Rive Belle Terrace was my go-to place for Breakfast. Coffee, scrambled eggs, potatoes, sausage, biscuits and Mickey Mouse pancakes. I had breakfast here every trip I made to Disneyland.
Great signage pics. Thanks, MB and Major.
It’s BOTH! The letter forms and logos are screenprinted using mechanical art and some of the Infill is done by hand.sometimes you will see Disneyland signs that were screenprinted … but over time touched up by hand making them look hand painted. If the sign gets kinda big they will normally hand paint. I have two of these signs but later versions with the MARK TWAIN where the sponsor goes. There’s a few versions like these and changes to the Oscar mayor logo … a Sunkist Citrus Growers and the Mark Twain versions . The Disneyland sign painters are becoming a rare breed.
The River Belle Terrace: Mickey Pancakes, and I'm not sure about anything else they served. Ham and cheese sandwiches? Probably. I did like the architecture and the blending of buildings to the next tenants, and one of my 1st day orientation buddies worked there, later to be president of the Disneyland Drama Club. I wonder if there is a Disneyland Drama Club anymore, or any club for that matter? There were loads of clubs, "made for you and me". All of the sports clubs were hard core. Something called "over the line" was beach-popular, and like most of those things, I didn't understand the point, but was happy to bring the beverages. It seems intentional that the Adventureland adjacent sign has a different font than the Frontierland "Main" entrance: I prefer the font on Frontierland, and formality in design of both the monument sign and the menu sign. I was confused about the Mickey pancakes, and how they used the frilly toothpicks that they constructed the "art" as "Mickey's Wiskers". I'm not sure I've ever seen a Mickey with wiskers, but I've seen a few real mice that had them. Looks like the young steed with the flowing hair in addition to wearing underpants is also wearing a gauze pullover/coverup. I had my share of gauze shirts as well, although most of mine were salmon, not white. I'd have a fine time in the Disneyland barber shop with that mop. Girls seem to love these Harlequin Romance types. Among other things, it just looks hot and sweaty. Not in a good way. As most of my relatives would say "SHORT BACK AND SIDES! A PROPER BOYS HAIRCUT!". I think I was anything but proper. A fellow TG said to me about guys like this: there are guys you date that your dad does not approve of, and then are the guys you marry. She liked the wild guys, but ultimately married the West Point Officer/ Football team/ NASA "short back and sides" one that daddy approved of. The choices in life...thanks MB for the fotos and fonts!
Mmm, lunchdinner.
When we were kids and had a late lunch or early supper, we'd take a page from brunch and call it "lupper."
Hand-painted signs make all the difference! It is always a delight to go to a park where you can still find these everywhere, they're so charming. One of my local parks has a "boneyard" that's pretty visible, and you can see piles and piles of old signs like this just sitting out in the elements.
During my semester at Colorado’s top tourist attraction, we freshmen had to “call minutes” in the hallway outside our rooms prior to breakfast (and maybe lunch, too; that memory is a bit hazy at the moment). This consisted of chanting - in unison - various key facts about the day: “There are XX minutes until [insert next major formation]. The uniform of the day is light blue, long sleeve shirt with tie; optional outergarment is the athletic jacket. The menu for today is as follows [insert menu for all three meals]” and so on and so forth. The regional and family differences in what each meal was called led to the three meals being called breakfast, the noon meal, and the evening meal. And woe betide the freshman who unwittingly referred to lunch, dinner, or supper in front of an upperclassman. It also wasn’t a great idea to mispronounce chimichanga when rattling off menu items, either, but that’s a different story. Suffice it to say, I know how to pronounce it now…
Mike, ”I have two of these signs…” Of course you do. And we love you for it. :-)
^ We are very fortunate to have our own Disneyland Answer Man and museum. Not too many other blogs can brag about that.
Thank you MB, MC and MP.
—Sue
Noticing the different type styles on the different entrances, also thinking the OM logo looks weird with the theme on either side. Takes you out of the moment and back over the berm somehow. Unlike the logos in Tomorrowland, which seemed to fit in, except Santa Fe.
This must have been the beginning of “Slob Dress” era. That guy is an eyesore.
Thanks Major, MB, and Mike!
JG
Slob Dress Era or SDE (tm). Please make a note of it.
Good morning all,
It might be a good thing that we can't see the menu and the prices. Reverse Sticker Shock is a real thing for us old folks. Remember the gas prices when you started driving?
W
Nanook… catchiest jingle ever?
JB, I am very upset about those brushstrokes, and look forward to when our robot overlords create everything. I know what you mean about “dinner”, my relatives in the midwest would eat what I would call “lunch” and they called it the d-word. I think it goes back to the farm days. As for “supper” I have no clue. I remember in the ‘80s, people wearing fairly little shorts, it sure looks odd these days. You’re not at the public pool!
K. Martinez, thanks, now I’m hungry!
Mike Cozart, I’m not surprised that it’s both hand-painted and screen-printed. I’m always amazed at the skill it took to paint beautiful signs with various fonts. Akin to pinstriping another amazing skill. I think I read that Ed “Big Daddy” Roth eventually worked in Knott’s’ sign shop so that he could get a pension. Amazing to think that some of those signs were painted by that legend. VERY cool that you have some signs!
Bu, yes, ham and cheese was a regular offering on old menus, and especially at a place sponsored by Oscar Meyer I assume. I wonder if they offered bologna sandwiches? My mom used to put those in my school lunch, and I grew to dislike bologna. A lot. I haven’t eaten the stuff in decades. “Disneyland Drama Club”?? I had no idea! What did you do? I have seen mention of softball teams and bowling leagues in old employee newsletters. And maybe square-dancing? Do-si-do! Now that you mention it, why DID they put whiskers on the Mickey pancakes? What do they know that I don’t? I’ve only eaten breakfast once at Disneyland, and got the equivalent of an Egg McMuffin, so I have no personal experience with those rodent-shaped pancakes. As for why women choose certain guys… that is a mystery that will never be solved!
Melissa, one of the Hobbits’ favorite meals.
Melissa, you could have combined dessert with it and called it “luppert”.
Andrew, oh man! I assume the boneyard is fenced off? I’d be very tempted to help myself to a few of those signs!
Chuck, you worked at the UFO watchtower?? The chanting is weird (sorry). ALL chanting is weird. That’s why it’s used in scary movies. I appreciate the desire to clarify which meal was which, but “the noon meal” and “the evening meal” seems a little clunky. As for mispronouncing the names of Mexican food items, my family (fresh from California) always got good laugh at our Pennsylvania friends who pronounced “taco” as if it rhymed with “whacko”. I’m sure nowadays that isn’t an issue.
Sue, now if only we can find a blog wizard!
JG, I kind of agree with you about the Oscar Meyer logo seeming out of place, it’s a lot like the sponsors that we see today. Starbucks on Main Street. But I guess they need that sponsorship money, no matter where it comes from. I can’t see myself ever going out in public in shorts like that fellow is wearing, UNLESS I was going to the beach, and even then I would wear one of those wool bathing suits like they had in 1880.
Bu, uh oh, time to update the GDB dictionary!
Warren, I know what you mean, and even when you adjust prices for inflation, there is often STILL some sticker shock.
Call it what you want, but it will always be "AJs" to me. Breakfasts offered after canoe race practices. Yeah, that's where we all hung out. When looking at the man's appearance, it is amazing how far we went from August 7, 1970 to "September 1979" in allowable standards in the park. What a whiplash. KS
KS, my friend Mr. X always says that... it's Aunt Jemima's Pancake House for him ALWAYS. And lucky for me, Disneyland never seems bothered when I wear my shiny leather jumpsuit.
Oscar Meyer is just a little off as a sponsor choice here. The name conjures wienie roasts and cold home-made bologna sandwiches, not a sit-down eatery. Chicken of the Sea, also associated with quick bites and boomer kitchens rather than fine dining, was a perfect fit for the pirate ship's snack bar.
For some reason my minds flits to brands like Sylvania, Admiral, and Zenith. Back when a television was furniture, and had the status of a luxury car. Going by initials only, RCA felt a bit like a nouveau (but then, Radio Corporation of America sounded TOO old). Still, it had class thanks to His Master's Voice -- and, of course, its Disney connection.
The logo I miss most is Kodak. Omnipresent not just at Disneyland, but in every drugstore and camera shop.
Major, at the time I thought the chanting was weird. And annoying to have to do. But…places like that have to find weird things for the freshmen to do, to develop discipline or something. It did make sure that we were always ready on time…and helped the upperclassmen not be late to breakfast or the noon meal formation.
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