Random New York City
OK, so today is the REAL birthday for Lou Perry and Dean Finder, which I messed up royally on Feb. 23rd. Go back and look at that day for Sue B's fun pictures!
New York City. Maybe you've heard of it. Tall buildings! The subway! Museums! Slices of pizza! A really big park! And, well, that's about it to be honest. No need to even go there. I've had some random scans from NYC for years, and I finally decided to try to make a blog post with them. Maybe you'll learn a little something about sharing, or friendship, orbelieving in yourself, or some damn thing.
This first scan is from the 1950s, and is a view from the Empire State Building looking past the Chrysler Building toward the East River, and beyond. If you are standing on your head you might see La Guardia airport! OK, I lied. The atmosphere is vaporous, from all of the alligator exhalations in the sewers.
Here's a map. Maps are useful.
I thought it would be a piece of cake to find a contemporary view just like that old one, but it was surprisingly difficult. The one below, scrounged from the Internet, is about as good as it got. In this modern view, you can see the Koch Queensborough Bridge crossing the East River and Roosevelt Island. Wave to the nice people in Astoria! There sure are a lot more tall buildings (how's that for incisive commentary?).
Next is one from the 1960s, taken by my friend's boss. This fellow was an artist, and he liked to render photorealistic paintings of various store fronts in San Francisco, Paris, Rome, Oxnard, and other notable cities. They are quite nice! I looked up "The Dug Out", but wasn't having much luck. I found another place called The Dug Out on 3rd Avenue, but it wasn't a match. However, on some other site a person said that there was a place called The Dug Out on Bleeker Street. OH REALLY? Using Google Maps' Street View, I went to 145 Bleeker Street (the number on the window in my photo).
So here's the view. I mean, it's sort of the same, but of course it's pretty different too. I was feeling pretty good about it, in general, but that staircase is a lot narrower, and that seemed odd. I should mention that the blue awning barely visible to the left is the famous venue, "The Bitter End", which opened in 1961, considers itself to be New York’s oldest rock club and built a legendary reputation after showcasing young performers like Joni Mitchell and James Taylor and comedians like Woody Allen and Billy Crystal." At the club, Bob Dylan played pool, watched performances, and occasionally performed circa 1961. I should mention that I had to go back a few years in Google Maps, because a structure is now on the sidewalk, mostly blocking this view.
Next I looked for old photos of The Bitter End, and lo, we can see that the stairs match my photo, and there is The DUGOUT (one word)! WHOO-HOO!
And finally, here's a photo (dated October, 1968) taken from inside somebody's car as they tootled along some mystery road. It didn't take very long to figure out that this is FDR Drive, which parallels the East River for miles and miles. That's the Manhattan Bridge nearby. Being unfamiliar with the territory, I thought that the Empire State Building was dead ahead, but it is several miles to the north (which would be to our right).
Here's another Google Maps contemporary view for you.









15 comments:
Major-
We love The Big Apple-!
Nice sleuthing on the DUGOUT, etc.; but I was immediately drawn to its next door neighbor: Don Hutchison - TV & Theatrical Hairstyling. I always seek out these fine establishments for all my barbering needs while traveling. (I'd love to know the 'stand-out' clients featured on those 8x10 images seen in the front window, along with that assortment of shaving cream mugs).
Happy [un]birthday - or is it now birthday-? to Lou and Dean.
Thanks, Major.
Happy birthday Lou & Dean !!
Don Hutchinson is where Anne Marie …. You know ; That girl … goes to have her hair done for auditions … and wasn’t the dugout where she forgot her purse and made “tomato soup “ with free hot water and ketchup ??? And of course the salt teen crackers were complimentary…
Hmmm.... New York City you say?... Nope. Haven't heard of it. Oh wait, isn't that the little town near Albuquoikey? Yeah, that must be it. They've got some pretty big buildings for a little town!
All that alligator breath gives the pic a nice lived-in look. A real place with real people and real alligators.
Kinda neat how the Koch Queensborough Bridge ends at the top of the Chrysler Building... How do the cars get down from there?
In (the first) "The Dug Out" photo, the guy walking to the left seemed normal, until I noticed that he's wearing sandals! AND, he has what appears to be a fairly large hole in the back of his shirt! Gang violence, whatcha gonna do aboud it? I like how the Dug Out lives up to its name, having to go down a couple of steps to get to it.
Your mention of Woody Allen and Bleecker Street reminded me of "The Happy Carrot health food restaurant" line in his movie, "Sleeper".
Happy re-birthday to Lou and Dean! And thanks for the trip to NYC, Major.
Major, I always love these kind of "Then and Now" comparisons, no matter the location. Thanks for taking the time to find the "Now" shots!
Happy birthday once again, to Lou and Dean!
Happy correct birthday, Lou & Dean!
Great sleuthificationizing, Major! I bow to your facultas loca inveniendi in urbe or, as the Germans would say, Orientierungssinn.
I once nearly saw this same view from the top of the Empire State Building. Unfortunately, once we reached the 86th floor observation deck, the group of out-of-towners I was with (including Mrs. Chuck, who had visited the top of the Empire State Building as a child) was convinced that that was as high as you could go in the building and flat-out refused to go looking for the elevator to the 102nd floor. I even - possibly emotionally - invoked the images from the climatic battle at the end of King Kong to no avail.
I was finally vindicated when we saw people waiting in line for the 102nd floor as we were waiting to go back down to the ground level, but we were almost to the elevator and everybody was hungry, so I was outvoted, sadly descending to street level, never to reach the storied heights where Anne Darrow, Jack Driscoll, and the Eighth Wonder of the World once trod. Of course, I have never once reminded Mrs. Chuck of it. That would be petty. I’m not sure why she won’t watch King Kong with me anymore…
Mike, I had a huge crush on Marlo Thomas when I was in preschool and early grade school. Please don’t tell Alice.
Thanks, Major!
Happy Birthday Dean and Lou. (Doo-da, Doo-da) Happy Birthday Dean and Lou (Oh de doo-da day)!
Major, you forgot Broadway!
Thanks for the tour! It was very good for the price.
Zach
Happy Birthday Dean and Lou! Many happy returns of the day!
New York, New York! Look at those chimneys smoking. Makes my eyes water looking at it.
The Dugout looks like a happening place, look at all those neon signs! I think I would like it even today. And yes, every lineal foot of sidewalk there is covered by scaffolding. If you want to invest in a sure thing, buy shares in a NYC scaffolding business.
Terrific work Major! I’m curious why the stairs were changed, the narrower ones look like modern precast concrete.
I like that windshield photo, especially the giant cigar-shaped UFO getting ready to abduct the photographer. Great photo match here too!
Thanks for the trip back east, Major.
JG
Happy REAL Birthday, Lou & Dean!
New York is still my favorite American city, and I've been to a lot of American cities. I really like the old neighborhood photos here
Thanks, Major.
Nanook, I do love The Big Apple! I feel like an alien when I’m there, but you can’t help being amazed at what is there. I noticed Don Hutchinson’s establishment and thought it was a little weird, but somehow it fits on Bleeker Street in that era. All those performers, getting their start in the general area. “Make me look like Milton Berle!” I would demand.
Mike Cozart, wow, I haven’t seen “That Girl” for decades, very interesting that Don Hutchinson’s appears in that show! Somehow I do remember the ketchup/tomato soup bit.
JB, the important thing to know about New York City is that it is “east of Oxnard”. A bridge to the top of the Chrysler Building was my idea, since I am afraid of elevators. The guy with the sandals was probably one of the many “Bohemians” living in the area at the time, it must have been fascinating, especially if you knew “where to be”. I’ll have to look on YouTube, I’m sure they have a clip about the Happy Carrot health food restaurant - it’s been a long time since I’ve watched “Sleeper”.
TokyoMagic!, I love finding “now” shots of vintage views, though they are never as nice as the old views.
Chuck, I am impressed by your multiple languages. I studied ancient Sumerian, but don’t use it much to be honest. Girls aren’t even impressed. Wow, what a bummer that you got so close to the top of the Empire State Building! Just because people were hungry?? You can eat any day, but there is only a chance or two to experience something like getting to the toop of the ESB!! I would have been cranky for days, probably. What does “King Kong” have to do with the Empire State Building??
zach, the “Doo-da” is a unique and exciting touch! And I always forget Broadway, ever since I was rejected for the original cast of “Cats”.
JG, there is something about “old New York”, even if it also could be quite rundown in places. The movie “Marty Supreme” does a great job of evoking NYC in the 50s in certain scenes. Ha, you make a good point about scaffolding, there must be very rich guys who are in the scaffolding business. I also wondered why those steps were changed! Maybe the old ones were crumbling. Thank you for pointing out the UFO, I guess my brain was wiped so that I wouldn’t mention it.
K. Martinez, I hope you’re feeling better! Seeing these photos makes me want to book a trip to NYC as soon as possible. Well, maybe not in “peak summer”. Too muggy.
Major, the ESB shows up in the background as Kong beats his chest atop the World Trade Center on the poster for the movie. I’m surprised you don’t remember that iconic image.
The stairs were narrowed to allow access to a secret basement discovered by Geraldo Rivera who also invented scaffolding.
In the 1960 and into the early 70’s New York City experienced “the great strip” thousands of buildings had the architectural ornamentation strip away. Decorative Balustrades ,cornices , corbels ,balconies, finals , brackets , Ridge trims …. All removed. This was after many many deaths of citizens due to falling architectural details from aging buildings -mostly because maintenance and repairs were not being done. Literally thousands of structures built from the 1820’s to the 1930’s got their historical identity striped away. Rare and expensive New York City architectural elements were sold off it trucked away to landfills and to harbor jetty piles .
Chuck, ah, I’d forgotten that you could see the ESB in that poster. THE BEST KONG MOVIE!
zach, ha ha. I remember actually watching that pathetic Geraldo special. I think he found a few empty bottles? But he probably made millions from it.
Mike Cozart, I had no idea that people in NYC were killed by falling bits of buildings! Unbelievable. I’ve been reading a lot about the history of the New York punk scene, one of the places that was frequented by punk bands was the Mercer Arts Center, which was in such poor shape that it spontaneously collapsed in 1973 (killing four people). I know that many ornate buildings were stripped of their beautiful details, including one now named for a famous reality show personality.
Have I ever heard of New York City? I think so, since I was born and raised in northern Manhattan (Inwood), and went to high school in the Bronx. Then my family moved to California, to what's now called Silicon Valley— or as I call it, Silly Con Alley. I've been back to the Apple a few times since, for family reunions and just to see how much the place has changed, which is quite a LOT!
Major, I have plenty of good pictures of the NY Metropolitan area, and I'll select some to post here, if you and the group are interested.
Oh, and a very happy birthday to those involved! In true Disney style, I prefer to celebrate my Unbirthdays, myself.
Thanks again for the birthday wishes. Coincidentally I drove through this area today, heading from NJ through the Lincoln Tunnel across midtown and over the Ed "How am I doin'?" Koch Bridge to Queens to take a tour of the Henson Creature Shop in Queens. It was a surprise birthday present from my wife, and highly recommended if you ever have a chance. (the tour, not the drive across NYC)
The bridge doesn't actually drop you at the Chrysler Building, but Robert Moses did propose an elevated highway across midtown that would have run through the Empire State Building's 6th and 7th floors.
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